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Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......
Posted by 'bertie77' on 19 Sep 2008 @ 15:43


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It amazes me in this day and age that the governing bodies/organisations and committees of all our nations don’t work together for class equality and consistence. And why the FFSA allow such domination is clearly a case for the Monopolies and Competition Commissions. If that is the real problem…

Engine sealing should not be completed by only those who are licensed to do so, here is the real problem. For years I stripped, cleaned and rebuilt my own engines, (with the exception of the hone work) and once arriving for an S1 event I had my engine sealed. The seal could quite easily have been left in place until the next round or even the round after that, if everyone is in the same boat then no advantage can be gained.

That was with a 100cc engine screaming around at silly high revs. Now we have an engine designed to run 40hrs plus and it’s completely wasted.

This isn’t a jab at those who support the seal, just how the seal is used and profited from.

If you leave it in place after purchase from new your guarantee is upheld, once you decide to rebuild you should be allowed to break the seal and have a new one fitted by the MSA or other organising body upon arrival at a race weekend.

Then if you’re cheating they can strip it on command at any point. And not only that, you don’t have to go and pay for an expensive rebuild just because the stewards have stripped it. Some new gaskets and a new seal and you’re racing again. Now doesn’t that sound like common sense?

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stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:21)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 16:27)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 17:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:05)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'neilw60dad'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 18:51)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'John'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:09)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Dion'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:10)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'NikG'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 19:55)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'michaelg36'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'cadet44'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 20:42)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Traxtar'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 21:00)
cadet engines  by 'SunnyJim'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:22)
Re: stars and s1 season cost, worth it?  by 'wildcard'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:45)
There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
I wish I'd had time for coffee!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:03)
Re: There are plenty of alternatives!  by 'bertie77'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: Someone has to pay!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:12)
Of course it's right!  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:26)
Re: Of course it's right!  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 9:09)
And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'SteveC'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:41)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:07)
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'bertie77'  << You are here!
Re: And how would you make it cheaper and......  by 'RoadRat'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:46)
Re: Cheap motorsport NOT Cheap!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:25)
John  by 'michaelg36'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 15:36)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:00)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:24)
Re: John  by 'Stig'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:31)
Re: John  by 'bertie77'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 16:52)
Re: John  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:17)
TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:32)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'John'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 11:49)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 12:59)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 14:21)
Why p**sball about with club karting on 12k  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:27)
add it up  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: add it up  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:44)
Re: TRUE costs.  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:29)
Davyboy  by 'michaelg36'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: Davyboy  by 'DavyBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:43)
Re: Davyboy  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 17:45)
right its easy to work out  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 18:00)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'richydehav'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: stars and s1 season cost ?  by 'iant'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'cosgrove78'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 22:52)
Re: wow!!!! thanks richy  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 9:46)
thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: thanks, thats what i was thinking.  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:37)
invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'Inter61'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 11:34)
Re: invaluble!! thats great  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 12:26)
ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:07)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:17)
Re: ahh, you must be joes dad!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:19)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'BradPits'   (17 Sep 2008 @ 23:15)
Good role model lol  by 'SteveC'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 10:57)
Re: stars and s1 season cost?  by 'Invader'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 13:09)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:04)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 14:59)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 15:40)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:04)
Re: cost breakdown - correction  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:17)
Re: cost breakdown - correction sounds good!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: cost breakdown - Genk weekend!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
thanks for all the info!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: cost breakdown  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:56)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 16:19)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'RoadRat'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 17:55)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:47)
Re: cost breakdown - usefull costing  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 19:54)
Re: Cosgrove78 - sorry forgot £3m of costs!  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:31)
£3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:50)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 20:53)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Cadet49Dad'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:09)
Re: Andy  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: Yes - the Tryton  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:20)
Re: Yes - the Tryton butnthe dogs had fun  by 'richydehav'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:29)
Excellent !! (nt)  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
great stuff richy!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:31)
Re: great stuff richy!!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:40)
well thanks for the mod!  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:00)
thanks, ill test some more  by 'cosgrove78'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:25)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'neilaustin'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:34)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:43)
Re: well thanks for the mod!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:11)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 21:57)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: It can't get any worse next year......  by 'cadet44'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:32)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:40)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:49)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (18 Sep 2008 @ 22:54)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:10)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Chris34'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 13:35)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:13)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:29)
Re: £3m of costs! no problem. gulp!!!!  by 'John'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 14:49)
Re: Hi 99  by 'KartingPete'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:37)
Re: Hi 99  by 'iant'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:48)
Re: Hi 99  by 'Hi99'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: How much for a Rotax Max season is S1 ?  by 'jc123rules'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 18:30)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'richydehav'   (19 Sep 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!! O.M.G!!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 0:52)
Re: Cosgrove78 look what you started!!!  by 'alanrr'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 21:59)
ok gents, now its getting out of hand!!  by 'cosgrove78'   (20 Sep 2008 @ 23:07)

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