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Posted by 'richydehav' on 03 Sep 2009 @ 16:49


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The design appears to allow the following kart to lift the rear end of the kart in front so yes there is contact. As cadets do push each other there will always be some contact and most of it should be treated for what it is - a racing incident. You will never eliminate contact - if you could I reckon a lot of F1 teams would be looking for advice on that.
The main issue seems to be that when a Zip spins and ends up facing the rest of the field the nose cone can act as a ramp and make any contact worse.
The difficulty for the MSA is proving that it is the nose cone that causes the problem as karts do flip when wheel contact happens.
It just seems that over the last few months there have been several cases of flipping where a Zip has ended up facing the wrong way and the drivers have been injured and this obviously focuses everyones minds.
The issue of using the nose cone for advantage is probably a bit of a red herring - it may be an advantage if you want to drive `dirty' but I would bet that most drivers don't use it that way but there will always be the odd few who do.

Message Thread:

Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'Slippery1'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 17:10)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'jakes93DAD'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 20:00)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'dave56'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 20:35)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'richydehav'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 21:53)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'jakes93DAD'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 22:11)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'richydehav'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 22:35)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'Jeffers'   (01 Sep 2009 @ 22:59)
formerly write to the MSA and series organisers..  by 'Chads'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 1:08)
Re: formerly write to the MSA and series organiser  by 'Willsdad'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 1:51)
Don't buy a Zip then!  by 'Xtreme47'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 7:55)
Re: Don't buy a Zip then!  by 'Slippery1'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 8:33)
Good grief people....  by 'rjbcar27'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 9:25)
Re: Good grief people....  by 'karter100'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 10:21)
Good grief!!!  by 'MJC'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 11:19)
Re: Good grief!!!  by 'cadetman'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 13:08)
They Won't  by 'michaelg36'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 13:31)
Stop buying Won't solve the problem..  by 'Chads'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 13:42)
In defense of the MSA, they are non commercial.  by 'Andrewrr'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 14:32)
Re: In defense of the MSA, they are non commercial  by 'RoadRat'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 18:51)
Re: Genk accident....  by 'Graham S'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 18:30)
Re: Genk accident....  by 'RoadRat'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 19:14)
Re: Don't buy a Zip then!  by 'cadetdad66'   (05 Sep 2009 @ 21:50)
Re: Don't buy a Zip then!  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Sep 2009 @ 14:18)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'Minisueg'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 15:41)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'cadet1608'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 18:10)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'Hootsman'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 18:58)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'RoadRat'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 19:08)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'cadet1608'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 20:28)
I wonder...  by 'rjbcar27'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 20:52)
Re: I wonder...  by 'Willsdad'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 21:47)
Re: I wonder...  by 'cadet1608'   (02 Sep 2009 @ 22:12)
Re: I wonder...  by 'michaelg36'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 0:23)
Re: I wonder...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 7:56)
Re: I wonder...  by 'chriskasch'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 8:39)
Re: I wonder...  by 'rjbcar27'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 9:29)
michael...  by 'rjbcar27'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 9:24)
Re: michael...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 11:57)
MSA/FIA/ZIP Meeting - 4Aug09  by 'THR'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 14:01)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'THR'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 18:51)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'Roblin'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 20:53)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'THR'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 22:24)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'iant'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 15:16)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'richydehav'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 16:06)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'iant'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:11)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'richydehav'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:30)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'iant'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:37)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'rjbcar27'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:40)
re: MSA/FIA/ZIP meeting  by 'iant'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:45)
re: And remember the MSA amendment  by 'Graham S'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 17:55)
re: And remember the MSA amendment  by 'iant'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 18:06)
re: And remember the MSA amendment  by 'Graham S'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 18:25)
Re: michael...  by 'Andrewrr'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 15:31)
Re: michael...  by 'rjbcar27'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 15:49)
Re: michael...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 15:55)
Re: michael...  by 'rjbcar27'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 16:02)
Re: michael...  by 'richydehav'  << You are here!
Re: michael...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 19:12)
Another issue then...  by 'rjbcar27'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 19:38)
Re: michael...  by 'davidmc'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 17:28)
Re: michael...  by 'Minisueg'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 18:21)
Re: michael...  by 'Doink'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 18:59)
Re: michael...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 19:08)
maybe we should.......  by 'cosgrove78'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 19:47)
Re: maybe we should.......  by 'Smurf'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 21:54)
Re: Two different issues  by 'richydehav'   (03 Sep 2009 @ 23:20)
Write the legal letters, threaten to get HSE ..  by 'Chads'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 2:32)
Involve the HSE and you invoke..........  by 'SteveC'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 4:13)
the suggestion was to THREATEN..........  by 'Chads'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 4:42)
Could it be that...  by 'Moonshine'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 9:40)
More thoughts  by 'Minisueg'   (10 Sep 2009 @ 17:54)
Re: Nose cone safety - Zip  by 'HC64'   (04 Sep 2009 @ 11:54)

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