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Re: what about easy kart???
Posted by 'davidmc' on 02 Apr 2012 @ 17:16


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Anything that prohibits an engine builder from making the best of an engine as it comes out the box ultimately makes the engines for that class more expensive than it should be.

If you have a sealed engine formula, stopping selected parts engines only makes matters worse. The wealthy will just buy 10, 20, 100 engines to find the best.

Claimers have a similar problem. You remove one set of wealthy people from the equation (the moderately wealthy), but the seriously wealthy still have an advantage. They'll just ensure they have the best engine available at that time. If someone claims it, they'll just go and get another one.

The only way to have a fair engine formula is to allow tuning to fiche. This way, most engines can be made to be "good enough".

Regarding seals, the fact that the most high profile engine cheating case ever happened in a sealed engine formula should highlight how they do nothing to promote fairness. With or without a seal, we all have to play to the same rules and cheaters will still cheat.

Regarding Rotax, this is about as good as it gets with regards to a sealed engine no tuning formula. A formula such as this can never be more fair without a considerable increase in cost.

Regarding the cadet engines, the perception of fairness and equality in this class is always skewed by parents. What this class should offer is a reliable engine that can be tuned to fiche, with a carb that is as easy to setup as possible.

Message Thread:

Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'Bucky'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 16:55)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'John'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 19:07)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'JohnForce'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 20:20)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'Bob'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 20:29)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'Bucky'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 21:05)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'FooFoo'   (29 Mar 2012 @ 22:37)
Re: Formula Cadet Engine announcement tomorrow?  by 'dynamax'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 9:11)
Announcement made......  by 'Bootynufc'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 17:30)
Re: Announcement made......  by 'BD'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 17:37)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'JohnForce'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 17:49)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'dynamax'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 18:58)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'Spice'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 21:19)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'JohnForce'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 22:19)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'iant'   (30 Mar 2012 @ 22:54)
Watch out Roger!  by 'JohnForce'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 7:18)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'Bob'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 8:27)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'John'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 8:46)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'FooFoo'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 9:24)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'Bucky'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 10:43)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'iant'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 10:52)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'RoadRat'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 18:43)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'iant'   (31 Mar 2012 @ 20:13)
Re:The real answer: 15.40pm today:  by 'FooFoo'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 7:20)
the worst thing the could  by 'NJB'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 10:07)
Re: the worst thing the could  by 'RoadRat'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 19:06)
Part selection is not cheating!  by 'Danlee'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 20:02)
Roadrat...Just to clarify...  by 'Danlee'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 20:07)
Re: Roadrat...Just to clarify...  by 'RoadRat'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 21:15)
Comer out ..... Iame in!!!!  by 'Amapex'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 21:59)
Re: Roadrat...Just to clarify...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (01 Apr 2012 @ 21:59)
what about easy kart???  by 'waveydavey42'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 1:43)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'Bucky'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 6:54)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'John'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 9:43)
Re: ha ha engines sealers a good idea  by 'RocketMan46'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 10:25)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'richydehav'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 9:50)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'KenE'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 12:13)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'NikG'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 13:14)
Re: what about easy kart??what about TKM 4 Stroke  by 'GJM'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 14:08)
Lets get back to the cadet subject  by 'FooFoo'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 15:19)
Re: Lets get back to the cadet subject  by 'JDsRs'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 16:08)
Re: Lets get back to the cadet subject  by 'colin'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 17:18)
Re: Lets get back to the cadet subject  by 'EtheT'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 17:21)
Re: Lets get back to the cadet subject  by 'MongooseMotorsport'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 11:09)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'JDsRs'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 17:54)
Re: what about easy kart???  by 'Traxtar'   (02 Apr 2012 @ 20:14)
Re: Roadrat...Just to clarify...  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 13:54)
Some progress on this thread  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 13:43)
Re: Some progress on this thread  by 'Bob'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 14:26)
Re: Some progress on this thread  by 'FooFoo'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 16:51)
Re: Some progress on this thread  by 'fatboynobby'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 23:15)
Re: Some progress on this thread  by 'davidmc'   (03 Apr 2012 @ 23:50)
The wheel goes full circle:  by 'JohnForce'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 8:55)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'John'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 10:41)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'RocketMan46'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 11:30)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'davidmc'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 12:30)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'FooFoo'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 16:27)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'John'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 18:02)
Two Sports with different needs.  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 19:44)
Re: Two Sports with different needs.  by 'John'   (04 Apr 2012 @ 22:23)
Re: Two Sports with different needs.  by 'RocketMan46'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 9:09)
Re: Two Sports with different needs.  by 'John'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 10:01)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'FooFoo'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 9:50)
Re: The wheel goes full circle:  by 'RocketMan46'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 10:16)
And another week passes.(nt)  by 'JohnForce'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 16:07)
Re: And another week passes.(nt)  by 'arfur298'   (05 Apr 2012 @ 20:33)

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