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Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace?
Posted by 'itpro' on 08 Oct 2010 @ 11:36

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We have discussed this before. Be VERY aware that there is (curently) NO SUPPORT from the MSA for using these things at ALL in karting!

Nobody has shown sufficient evidence that they help in karting to make the MSA support the use of them yet.

A few people saying 'my lad wore one, had a shunt and is fine' is NO BETTER proof than all the other (vastly larger number of) dads who could say: 'My lad never wore ANY sort of brace and HE had a shunt and was fine'.

Currently, there is also no PROOF to say that neck braces of ANY karting type are NOT more likely to CAUSE an injury to the wearer! Please note EXACTLY what I said there, I am NOT saying there is ANY 'proof' to show they are dangerous, there just is no 'official' proof (i.e., recognised by the MSA) that says they do NOT cause injury!

Many people will trot out the old argument that they are used in Formula 1 and other car formulae...... BUT..... all of THOSE types work by using the SEAT BELTS to 'carry the load'. We don't have seat belts and thus karting neck braces do NOT work in the same way as those used in Cars. Thus, simply BECAUSE the work in cars C*A*N*N*O*T be used as proof that they work in karts!

I do know that they have been shown to help in SOME motorcycle racing...... but not ALL...... and we are NOT motorcycles!

Ian

Message Thread:

Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'DavidMH' (08 Oct 2010 @ 7:48)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'TheMantis' (08 Oct 2010 @ 9:39)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'Chedder7' (08 Oct 2010 @ 9:48)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'DavidMH' (08 Oct 2010 @ 12:00)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'Ballhatchet' (08 Oct 2010 @ 14:45)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'HappyWheels77' (08 Oct 2010 @ 17:52)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'richydehav' (08 Oct 2010 @ 18:08)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'Ballhatchet' (08 Oct 2010 @ 18:55)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by '89cc' (09 Oct 2010 @ 19:22)

Re: Valhalla 360 vs Leatt neck brace? by 'Bod' (09 Oct 2010 @ 20:03)

Or point out i can't spell kart (sorry) (nt) by 'Bod' (09 Oct 2010 @ 20:07)

Bod...... again by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:42)

Leatt by 'Minisueg' (11 Oct 2010 @ 22:00)

Ballhatchet? by 'itpro' (08 Oct 2010 @ 19:45)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'Ballhatchet' (08 Oct 2010 @ 20:21)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'lbsf1' (10 Oct 2010 @ 12:08)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'Bod' (10 Oct 2010 @ 16:13)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by '89cc' (10 Oct 2010 @ 19:30)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'Bod' (10 Oct 2010 @ 22:21)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'DavidMH' (11 Oct 2010 @ 8:11)

Re: Shhhh itpro? by 'Bod' (11 Oct 2010 @ 11:33)

David by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:21)

89cc by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 14:37)

Re: 89cc - Ian be fair by 'richydehav' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:15)

Richy by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:39)

Re: Richy by '89cc' (11 Oct 2010 @ 16:49)

89..... by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 17:28)

Re: 89..... by '89cc' (11 Oct 2010 @ 17:59)

Re: 89..... by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 18:38)

Re: 89..... by 'RotaxTim' (11 Oct 2010 @ 22:48)

MSA have tested them...!! by 'RotaxTim' (26 Oct 2010 @ 14:45)

Re: Any evidence for Rib protectors? by 'richydehav' (12 Oct 2010 @ 8:12)

Bod.....? by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 14:31)

Itpro.....! by 'Bod' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:42)

Bod.... Tee hee!!!! ......(NT) by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:44)

Re: Bod.... Tee hee!!!! ......(NT) by 'Bod' (11 Oct 2010 @ 17:00)

Re: Bod.... by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 17:33)

Re: itpro.... by 'Bod' (11 Oct 2010 @ 23:11)

Bod.... by 'itpro' (12 Oct 2010 @ 10:28)

Re: Bod.... by 'Zico' (12 Oct 2010 @ 20:15)

Re: Bod.... by 'itpro' (13 Oct 2010 @ 13:45)

Re: Zico by 'Bod' (13 Oct 2010 @ 19:49)

Re: Zico by 'itpro' (14 Oct 2010 @ 14:13)

itpro by 'Bod' (14 Oct 2010 @ 21:00)

This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK about it by 'itpro' (11 Oct 2010 @ 15:15)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'Zico' (12 Oct 2010 @ 8:28)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'PaulMRotax' (12 Oct 2010 @ 22:24)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'Ballhatchet' (12 Oct 2010 @ 23:29)

Ballhatchet by 'itpro' (13 Oct 2010 @ 14:06)

Re: Ballhatchet by 'Ballhatchet' (13 Oct 2010 @ 14:28)

Re: Ballhatchet by 'itpro' (14 Oct 2010 @ 13:45)

Re: Ballhatchet by 'Ballhatchet' (14 Oct 2010 @ 22:42)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'pdapaul' (13 Oct 2010 @ 0:11)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'Ballhatchet' (13 Oct 2010 @ 9:06)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'pdapaul' (13 Oct 2010 @ 10:00)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'NikG' (13 Oct 2010 @ 10:39)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'Ballhatchet' (13 Oct 2010 @ 12:37)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'NikG' (13 Oct 2010 @ 12:50)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'NikG' (13 Oct 2010 @ 12:52)

Re: This is NOT complicated..... if you THINK abou by 'pdapaul' (13 Oct 2010 @ 13:13)

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