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Re: The norm for karting is! (just for your......
Posted by 'itpro' on 30 Nov 2008 @ 14:49


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Your views may WELL be valid but plese don't use 'faulty logic' to defend themn! It was YOU who claimed we should do XYZ becasue it was the NORM! Whereas you DON'T want to remain wihtout disc protectors even though THAT has been the 'norm' since the FIRST day of karting!

That's simply not REASONABLE in 'argument' terms! If abiding by the 'norm' is a 'good reason' for allowing Kerbing, then how does it become invalid for disk protection?

Anyway, the 'level' of kerbing being used today is NOT the norm! There has not been one track in the COUNTRY in the whole HISTORY of karting that would have allowed for a kart to REPEATEDLY drive all FOUR wheels over a new karb and, indeed, would even EXTEND the kerb to make this EASIER.

Allowing a SINGLE wheel onto the kerb WAS the 'norm' for the past ....... Now.....one circuit at least.... does NOT follow the 'norm' and allows all FOUR wheels and AGAIN you haven't stated that departing from the 'norm' in THAT case is 'wrong'!

Be consistent with your views and with your reasoning, Steve! If maintaining and supporting the 'norm' has a value for 'kerbs' then it has a value for ALL kerbs! It also MUST have a value for the speed of rolling laps...... and the 'historical' norm for that WAS to allow it!

If it doesn't, then the 'norm' has no value for ANY part of karting!

Ian

Message Thread:

CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'TKM177'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Avago'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:47)
Who was the CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'rotaxdave'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:31)
Re: Who was the CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Smith43'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'cadet44'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:44)
Anyone who didn't take the original start is.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:24)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'JPG'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:24)
Not relevant to being allowed to restart!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:04)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'alanrr'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'LRT'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:17)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Sticky'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:43)
The pole man is responsible for a pace that.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:21)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'Sticky'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:38)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:45)
Rubbish, a driver needs to do the sensible thing!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:42)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:35)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:56)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:16)
David  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 14:36)
Re: David  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 18:24)
Re: David  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'chriskasch'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:20)
The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:45)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:20)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)
Starting speeds another example of officials....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:46)
You've obviously never used a pace kart for.......  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)
Re: You've obviously never used a pace kart for...  by 'chriskasch'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 10:40)
The current method of starting and the reg to.....  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:04)
Re: The current method of starting and the reg to.  by 'KartingPete'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:35)
That would be like timing the rolling lap!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:22)
Re: That would be like timing the rolling lap!  by 'KartingPete'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:47)
Not having a grid of clean engines causes  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:53)
Re: Not having a grid of clean engines causes  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 13:03)
Some kerbs yes, some kerbs no!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 8:25)
Re: Some kerbs yes, some kerbs no!  by 'itpro'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 12:22)
The norm for karting is! (just for your......  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:22)
Re: The norm for karting is! (just for your......  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Disc protectors are a CIK thing!  by 'SteveC'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 9:54)
Re: You've obviously never used a pace kart for...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:00)
You've obviously not written regs before!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:11)
There far from a perfect comparison!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:50)
The off side reg hasn't changed in modern......  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:46)
Wrong again..... Steve!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:03)
Totally right, davidmc doesn't mention hockey!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:27)
Re: Totally right, davidmc doesn't mention hockey!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 13:07)
http://www.karting.co.uk/notice/Message.asp?FID=1&  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 8:29)
...... and the TITLE read..........  by 'itpro'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 12:24)
However should you work out how to follow a.....  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:27)
Re: However should you work out how to follow a...  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:52)
Safari makes it obvious!  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:07)
I'm so sorry Ian, I've only just realised!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:41)
Hockey again!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:29)
Just a test!  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:55)
No, that would be your reply to your own post! nt  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:10)
Not so, football regs state very clearly that  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:44)
If I was talking about hockey off side, I would...  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:29)
Errrrr...... go on then.... explain it!  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:58)
You're using an inferior browser!  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: You're using an inferior browser!  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 17:05)
You've tested it on Safari on a PC!  by 'SteveC'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: You've tested it on Safari on a PC!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 10:24)
I don't think it was ever intended to do so!  by 'SteveC'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 9:09)
Just for the avoidance of doubt!  by 'SteveC'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 9:51)
RE:TKM 177  by 'Beezo'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:11)
RE:TKM 177  by 'TKM177'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)

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